Thanks for your reply. I think you misunderstood my reply.
First let me tell you that fernando is a very good friend of mine, and he keeps telling me that he does not agree to the way I read the verses in the bible, and that's why he asked me to answer from my heart not just verses from the bible.
So my spirit when I answered to him was that I could not debate doctrine without using some verses from the bible.
I respect his point of view about the grace, even tough I do not agree in some points, specially the one he pointed in his post.
He also knows (cause I told him) that he is being a blessing in my life, cause the Holy Ghost is using him a lot in my life trough these debates about the grace.
So I am here in the spirit of agape, and if I am sounding harsh I apologize for that. Sometimes when we write something, we have a certain idea in our mind, but when someone reads it, it may sounds completly diferent.
Shalom,
Thiago
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Based in your last message I think I understood your point:
"So it does not mean that if you sin you will go to hell (or just leave the kingdom here on earth), nor it is related to the quantity of sins you make, but about sinning willfully and deciding to do not repent from living after the flesh (sin), because then you will be edificating you life not in the true vine or the rock, so you are rejecting the Gospel and Jesus itself and his sacrifice."
So in your opinion the person who can loose their salvation is not the person who commits sin but the person that does not repent right?
Well, I'd like to give examples to explain my point (think I inherited it from my Lord Jesus…He usually gave examples to explain his point, cause it's the only way to show us the size of his love for us).
Ok, imagine yourself on the beach, the Brazilian one (Florianópolis or Ilha Bela)…
As a man … you are watching the girls on the beach…more than that…You're not just watching the girls but you desire them too (Or am I the only one?!?! – Let's be honest heh?)….So you'll repent for each time you desire a girl? And you gonna ask for forgiveness every time too? What if you forget to ask for forgiveness 2 or 3 times? (some sins we don't even remember)….You're gonna loose your salvation?
My point is very simple…If you committed a sin that you don't even remember, how should you repent or confessed it? I think I have a lot of unconfessed sins, sins i dont remember anymore, in what position am I, lost or saved?
In Jesus
Fernando
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Well, to answer your question, I think that the verse from hebrews 10:26 answers your question. It's all about your will to continue sinning (if you keep sinning willfully). It's all based on a decision, explicit one or implicit.
You can decide to let Christ live in you or your soul to be the lord of your life, remembering that you cannot serve two lords (and in my opinion it is a willfull decision to serve one or another)
About your example:
As I said above, it's a willfull decision to remain in sin, that's why in galatians 5:21 the Ap Paul says that the ones that did that things would not inherit the kingdon.
Another thing, about the unknown sins, you can confess them generically, and God will forgive you if you repent (have you will in not living under the servitude of sin).
In the Mercy of the Lord,
Thiago
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As you said: "Another thing, about the unknown sins, you can confess them generically, and God will forgive you if you repent (have you will in not living under the servitude of sin)"
Is it possible to repent oneself for something that one doesn`t even remember?
In His Grip
Fernando
Post edited by: Fernando Esteves Pedraza, at: 2007/01/18 00:47
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Remember, it's not a sin (or a bunch of them that will condem you) but your choice that will.
Repenting is about your life, your decision about whom you are serving: sin or the Lord Jesus (rom 6:16). So your repentence does not reside in an specif act, but a general heart (and faith) attitude.
Hope it helped.
Thiago
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